Building for the road course...again

[Enki]

Unless you decide to build a disi 2.slow. Haha fuck you @Enki

 

[gotovato]

Helps me make some sense of how and why the civic works well. Everyone loves to cry about no torque from the k20 lol

 

[Crazycanadian]

There are not many people out there still reading entire threads like this so props to you! i know i have done my fair share of long thread readings lol



Yea so you know exactly how it is. Its almost exactly double to build the same car in Canada that you could build in the USA which makes everything take longer and its far more important to get it right the first time. Makes things stressful but it is what it is. We love this stuff so we just deal with it and make it work


Yea so same problems i have. I am not so much an Autox guy but ive tried it a few times. I didnt really look at classing just listed my mods and they put me where ever and thats ok for doing a random event here or there but if you actually want that podium then it becomes a huge pain.

We had a local series here that was built/funded by a rich guy from China, big money spent on renting out tracks and giving away thousands of dollars in prizes which no one else does.

This series used the gridlife rule book which people LOVE. Now my car also doesnt fit in well with the gridlife rule book but at least it makes some more sense.

I feel like all time attack series should just go the gridlife route. As gridlife gains popularity there are more and more local Ontario teams heading out to grid life events. Would be nice to not have to do a mini rebuild for every single series lol. I want to visit gingerman for midwest fest 2026 which may be doable but as im sure you know, ClubTR is ridiculous those cars are pushing 250-280whp, completely gutted/aero'd golden era hondas so you know they weigh like 2300lbs...and id be in that class. Street class which is the next class up is all turbo stuff or V6s/V8s making real power. Tough to slot in there but for me it would just be about the experience. I dont expect to be competitive against guys who have been running the series for years and are built to the rule book. Ah well lol this is racing



This looks like a blast to drive! small and lightweight. thats awesome. Primarily an autox car it sounds like?

Those Golden era hondas are closer to 2100lbs - 2000lbs when done right for autocross classes. I want to build one. Just gotta sell 20 years worth of Mazda Protege, 323 GTX, Mx3 parts.. The 323 is a pig at 2260lbs without driver. This was my hay day 323. It was 2100lbs with a 2.5L V6. You'd probaly change your mind about autocross driving it.

I've been following Eric Kutil battling in the GLTC series. I haven't followed much of the time attack stuff. Need someone like yourself to put out a series to show case all the trials, up and downs that goes on with winning in that side of things. I like seeing how the different combinations can compete with one another. Some day I'll get down to the Laguna Seca grid life event.

 

[gotovato]

Those Golden era hondas are closer to 2100lbs - 2000lbs when done right for autocross classes

I think for time attack/GLTC these guys run some pretty serious cages which adds some weight back. Not sure if autox requires a cage?


Either way those cars are crazy light lol. My car sits at high 2600’s/low 2700’s depending on if I have the rear interior removed. Class rules between series are different for interior removal so I had to reinstall everything. Total bummer. That said I have made it work. The car has been successful given the effort and money spent so I really can’t complain. Specially against my competition!

This was my hay day 323. It was 2100lbs with a 2.5L V6

That sounds like a riot! I’ve never owned/driven something so light with any amount of power. Maybe my 1997 srt4 swapped neon coupe. It was about 2550lbs with me in it and made about 350hp. Tire cooking machine that thing was.

I've been following Eric Kutil battling in the GLTC series. I haven't followed much of the time attack stuff. Need someone like yourself to put out a series to show case all the trials, up and downs that goes on with winning in that side of things. I like seeing how the different combinations can compete with one another. Some day I'll get down to the Laguna Seca grid life event.

I’m not much of a GLTC guy myself but I have been following Eric because I enjoy his build and his driving which is what makes him successful. I feel like you could not just put anyone in that car and expect to be on podium. His level of setup is also top tier all the angles and curves measured and tuned for his suspension. He is a few levels above me in that regard and it’s really changed my thoughts on the whole setup thing. I’d like to spend some time/money also measuring all the camber curves and toe curves and whatnot. I’m at the point where a few tenths of lap time is the difference between 1st place and 5th place so every bit matters.

I watched the Laguna stream and made the decision that I too will be going for the 38 hour tow one day. I told myself 2027 I’ll take the civic down to Laguna. Competitive or not who cares just driving that track is worth it. The experience would be unreal.

Maybe 2026 I can hit up Midwest fest. I’m thinking about it but getting a ticket is almost impossible it seems.


You mention a series from myself..I’d love to. The ins and outs ups and downs as you said. I’ve have more than my fare share and I don’t mind talking about it and showing that with the good sometimes comes the bad and that’s just the cost of doing business. One thing no one talks about is the mental durability required to do this shit specially after being kicked in the face multiple times.


I’ve done 2 engine swaps this season with a third coming soon lol. What a life