Cts-v brake conversion interest

So we did get these made for the MS6, and they did work. Even did a few track events on them.

However...

The reason we decided not to continue forward with these was due to the fact that only the REAR CTSV calipers were going to fit up front on the MS6 and MS3. Because they are rear calipers, they have relatively small pistons. And because the pistons are smaller than the OE single pistons MS3/6 calipers, more pedal effort would be required to achieve the same clamp load. We see this as a safety issue, and would not recommend on running them.
 
Awafrican said:
Unfortunate that these didn't pan out, appreciate you guys for trying. Thanks for the update
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Same. I've also looked into making the RS brembo's work on the MS3. But with how much would need to change or be custom made, an actual name brand BBK would be about the same price.

We might eventually work on a BBK for the speeds, using some really awesome calipers, but it'll be a track focused kit. AKA, not cheap.
 
Matt@DM said:
Same. I've also looked into making the RS brembo's work on the MS3. But with how much would need to change or be custom made, an actual name brand BBK would be about the same price.

We might eventually work on a BBK for the speeds, using some really awesome calipers, but it'll be a track focused kit. AKA, not cheap.
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Gotcha so that solves the front then I take it just slap Mazda 5 calipers on the rear with the mazda5 caliper bracket and rotors to even some things out.

A true track focused BBK for all corners would be great to see for the platform. That being said I'm certainly in no position to get a kit nor do I have a need for one but I'd love to see one.
 
Awafrican said:
Gotcha so that solves the front then I take it just slap Mazda 5 calipers on the rear with the mazda5 caliper bracket and rotors to even some things out.

A true track focused BBK for all corners would be great to see for the platform. That being said I'm certainly in no position to get a kit nor do I have a need for one but I'd love to see one.
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There actually are some, if you know where to look... and have $$$

Stoptech had a decent kit, and we've sold a few of them. They might be able to do a "trophy" spec kit with their more race spec'd caliper & rotor.

Rotora, which is what I'm running on the front of my ST, has a MS3 kit for the front, maybe even the rear. You can spec their kits to the "super challenge" for more race spec'd components.

PowerBrake has a front kit, but they could probably do a rear kit too.
 
Matt@DM said:
So we did get these made for the MS6, and they did work. Even did a few track events on them.

However...

The reason we decided not to continue forward with these was due to the fact that only the REAR CTSV calipers were going to fit up front on the MS6 and MS3. Because they are rear calipers, they have relatively small pistons. And because the pistons are smaller than the OE single pistons MS3/6 calipers, more pedal effort would be required to achieve the same clamp load. We see this as a safety issue, and would not recommend on running them.
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But on your picture is it the rear or the front CTS-V caliper we see bolt up front ?

and the picture of the gen1 speed3 with CTS-V caliper seem to be the real front one ? and the guy wrote that it fit ? so how he made it ? just with a custom bracket it could not fit ?
 
Speedhunter said:
But on your picture is it the rear or the front CTS-V caliper we see bolt up front ?

and the picture of the gen1 speed3 with CTS-V caliper seem to be the real front one ? and the guy wrote that it fit ? so how he made it ? just with a custom bracket it could not fit ?
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On our MS6, we have the CTSV rare calipers up front. It looks like the gen1 also has rear CTSV calipers up front.

It can fit with a bracket, but I would advise against it, as it will negatively affect braking performance.
 
Matt@DM said:
On our MS6, we have the CTSV rare calipers up front. It looks like the gen1 also has rear CTSV calipers up front.

It can fit with a bracket, but I would advise against it, as it will negatively affect braking performance.
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And why the front caliper doesnt fit ?

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The stoptech kit is a pretty solid option. Problem is no one wants to spend that kind of money. That said…you often get what you pay for. This includes the world of braking.


I can say I’ve never had any concerns with rear brakes being stock and I can’t understand all this obsession with the rears. They just don’t do enough to matter. At all my track days in the speed, of all my rotors and pad swaps over 6 years I did the rears twice.

keep in mind there are significantly faster time attack cars that still use their chassis stock rear brakes. With no issues.
 
Raider said:
I read this post, and highlighted the key important information.
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Yep for the rear caliper in front ... But like I Said i want more info about the front ctsv on our car.



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Matt@DM said:
Mainly the mounting points of the caliper and the mounting points on the knuckle. On the 6, there just isn't enough room to make things work. On the 3 it could be done, buuuuuuuuuuut a huge rotor would be needed. aka gotta run 19's for wheels.
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I see a lot of Guy Do on their speed6 evox front caliper

So i Will try to fit Them on my gen1 speed3

I need to create a custom bracket with the 350mm front disc if the evox and fit ms6 brake Line on those caliper.

Its why i ask about the ctsv caliper because they look very close to the evox front caliper

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